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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 10:55:40 AM »

Thanks Michael for posting and Barbara for the link.

Some great information contained in this read for any upcoming or down-going screenwriter who wants to turn things around.

All we gotta do is hammer these points into our small heads !!!!

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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 11:28:04 PM »
Good reminders.

Interesting that the last article I read at Scriptshadow was from a reader who made the point that readers don't stop after ten pages, but I suppose they can  switch off.

The first ten are key.

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 04:15:09 AM »
I think this is so important...more important is that every page has to have what I call TTP value. TTP=Turn The Page....it's so important to keep a reader reading. Also...readability is a factor. If something is easy to read and reads fast...it will help a great deal.

One thing to remember too...not only just getting the reader to the inc inc on page 10-12 is this: If you watch a number of movies...and beat them out...sometimes the catalyst is two part. This is also similar to using the sequence method where something important happens at least every six pages. Something will happen around page 6 that leads to the inc inc on page whatever. Page number isn't that important for these things to fall on people. What is important is keeping the reader reading. Page ONE needs to have something to really interest the reader....IMO. If I'm not interested in anything by page 5 I'm out.

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2013, 05:47:12 AM »
I just read not one but three page turners. Sadly two of the three had an agent but the scripts were not set up anywhere. While that was hard for me to believe, I was almost relieved, "heck if this isn't going maybe we still have some hope!" Something that writer did; TOLD THE STORY IN THE CUT. It made me ask, ok what's next. HUGE. Small thing. Huge impact.

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 01:14:16 PM »
When I read that article, I thought it was highly derivative. There was nothing new in there. At the same time, it was informative because it reinforced what they (people who are better than you are) are trying to beat into your heads, without including a bunch of fluff. Good call on that one.
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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2013, 09:03:53 AM »
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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 07:35:29 AM »
QUESTIONS FOR THE SHOW AND OR SUGGESTED TOPICS; doing show prep now.

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2013, 01:06:58 PM »
I read a script like this:
1. is there voice?
2. is it unique?
3. is there narrative tug?
4. is there a hook?
5. would I pay to produce it if I could?
6. would I want to see it if it was on the air or distributed?
7. do I love it enough to hawk it for six months to see if I can get it going and is the writer professional enough so if it does go he or she can do rewrites on a dime or will the writer be a pain all the way through - do they know the biz?
8. do I know buyers who may want it?
9. do I know prods who know how to cast talent?
10. And finally and above all will it make 3 dollars per dollar invested for the investors?

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 07:20:13 AM »
Just saw the Questions / Suggested Topics post.

I'm not passing that up but understand if you don't have time or doesn't fit in the show...

When adapting a novel to screenplay: is it best to have the novel author (since they're available) stay out of the way during the process of screenwriting, and only have him see a finished draft and respond with notes? Or should they be involved page-by-page?

I know there's no hard and fast rule for that...just looking to be effecient and minimize potential conflict.

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 09:47:19 AM »
great question:

scenario 1: I can't see a novelist who gets lucky and sells the rights having any 'sway' but I will bet you a smart prod will meet with that writer and pick his or her brain.

scenario 2: new novelist who's a jerk - self explanatory

scenario 3: star novelist - lots of sway, final say? depend on what's at stake.

It really does depend on who's running with it, what's involved in terms of egos (on set etc) and what the contract states first and foremost.


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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 09:49:17 AM »
Just saw the Questions / Suggested Topics post.

I'm not passing that up but understand if you don't have time or doesn't fit in the show...

When adapting a novel to screenplay: is it best to have the novel author (since they're available) stay out of the way during the process of screenwriting, and only have him see a finished draft and respond with notes? Or should t
hey be involved page-by-page?

I know there's no hard and fast rule for that...just looking to be efficient and minimize potential conflict.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2013, 12:47:15 PM »
Awesome...thanks!

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2013, 04:33:37 PM »
SOME ARE SO FUNNY, AND SO RARE AND HAVE JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF NUT BURGER, I JUST HAVE TO SHARE:

WHAT YOU DON'T SAY TO AN AGENT WHEN WE PASS:

DEAR BABZ:
First, I want to say that was a very polite brush-off. As a naive screenwriter I was filled with hope and aspirations.

Second, I want you to know you really screwed the pooch. I honestly do know how the xxx were constructed, and I can also offer proof that someone else figured it out also... 4,500 years ago. Consider the evidence.

Third, I've read xxxx, boo-hoo I'm scared. Congratulations, you let the big one slip through your fingers. But don't feel too bad, yours was a privileged life.

Lastly, as a fledgling, you're the second that has responded to my baby bird 'cheeps', so I appreciate the fact that someone in 'the business' hears and thinks about me. Wish you'd have gotten it right though...

By the way... xxxx plagiarized one of my lines -- "We xxxx". I cannot prove it, but I know it. I can prove I wrote that line over ten years ago.

(WILD! NUFF SAID. BUT FUNNY! YEAH! I felt so bad for the guy, because I always leave my door open even when I pass. BUT NOT TO HIM. See ya all next show. bb)

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2013, 12:49:44 PM »
I know that story Babz told was old, but I just read it for the first time. Reaction was simple: small chuckle. Seven second pause. Sigh.
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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 07:11:49 PM »
Here's an email I got from Babz that she asked me to post on the forum:

Hi, Gang!

Get to know LEE!

Click on the link and there's tons of material there, including the sensational PILAR! Many of you may already know her and if not you should. Lee and Pilar offer services that can help writers through the toughest of times when it comes to script.

Hugs on ya!

BABZ

NOTE: She didn't give me a link so maybe she might add one to this thread.

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 07:12:46 PM »
Here's a link that Babz did send me but I don't think it goes with the email above:

http://www.scriptmag.com/features/meet-the-reader-what-makes-a-good-screenwriter-2

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2013, 08:30:47 AM »
Here's a link that Babz did send me but I don't think it goes with the email above:

http://www.scriptmag.com/features/meet-the-reader-what-makes-a-good-screenwriter-2
THANKS TEAM. bb

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2013, 08:08:59 AM »
subtext translated: or is it just subterfuge:

http://www.youtube.com/user/officevideos

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Re: From the desk of Babz
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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2013, 08:08:46 AM »
thanks babz - had a look at those.

The 'trying to sell your script' was an interning one.

I've just started working on what 'I' think is a killer idea. But...i don know if others will, and even if it is i need to extract the best story out of it so i need to keep focused on the story, characters, the rising tension, the pacing, the reveal etc Only then will i know whether my idea and my script had added up to a decent opportunity.

So what i took from the clip was a sense of not checking the numbers on your idea, rather try to find a decent idea, then write the story and at the end...you find out...maybe

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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2013, 08:41:22 AM »
Babz, I saw this column by Lee Jessup:

http://www.leejessup.com/lee-s-blog/finding-representation-one-screenplay-enough/

Basically, the premise of the column was that a great screenplay might get you representation, but the reality is that to really get repped you need to have that second screenplay in your back pocket to show that you're not a "one-trick pony."  Do you agree with that premise?  Thanks for all you do and love the podcasts!

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2013, 04:24:08 AM »
COOL STUFF FROM FOLKS WHO DO, WELL, COOL STUFF:

FROM Craig Clyde, our client:
"It's a touching story of an orphan girl who is taken for a month at Christmas by a childless couple.  The little girl does not speak due to the accident who took her parents' lives.  The man and wife are having their own problems, not only with the barreness of their lives, the man has just lost his job so he's out of work.  The little girl only communicates through one word notes.  It's really very touching and has a surprise ending.  What's more interesting, the man who wrote it is my plumber!  He wrote it for his daughters the year his business failed.  It's a work of fiction but based on solid characters."
 
THIS WILL BE ON KICKSTARTER. WILL KEEP YOU POSTED. BB

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2013, 09:42:38 AM »
Don't tell me you can't trim your script.
BB

From http://curious.com/

Theodore Geisel saved modern story time thanks to a few bets. In the 1950's, early-reader children's books consisted mostly of repetitive "primer" books like Dick and Jane using stories involving unnaturally clean and polite children doing ordinary things. One evening a struggling children's author, Theodore Geisel, was given a challenge by a friend over dinner: write a story for first-graders that was limited to no more than 225 words out of a first grade vocabulary list of 348 words. Nine months and 236 words later, "The Cat in the Hat" was born. Under his nom de plume of Dr. Seuss, Geisel's fanciful and naughty cat went on to sell around one million copies in the first three years. A few years later, Geisel's new publisher bet him $50 that he couldn't repeat his success using only 50 words, and "Green Eggs and Ham" was born. While Geisel claimed he never got his $50, he did get a lifetime of royalties from one of the best selling children's books of all time. See Dick and Jane blush with envy.

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2013, 08:56:07 AM »
OK LET'S GET TO THE MONEY: HE WROTE --
"So what would a compelling body of work look like for an industry executive?

    2-3 scripts (either screenplays or pilots) in like genre, all meeting the same level of excellence
    Potentially one script in a varied format (for feature writers, this would be a TV pilot or material for a web series; for TV writers this would be a feature or web-driven material)
    At least 5 strong ideas in like genre
    2 strong ideas outside brand (in a different genre)"

to that I offer this:

So what would a compelling body of work look like for an industry executive?  TO ME THEY LOOK FOR VOICE. THEY KNOW IT WHEN THE 'READ' IT.

    2-3 scripts (either screenplays or pilots) in like genre, all meeting the same level of excellence - FOR SURE.
    Potentially one script in a varied format (for feature writers, this would be a TV pilot or material for a web series; for TV writers this would be a feature or web-driven material) FOR SURE.
    At least 5 strong ideas in like genre FOR SURE (WHAT I CALL BACK BURNER OR HOPPER PLOTS)
    2 strong ideas outside brand (in a different genre) (FOR SURE, SHOWS VERSATILITY.

That said, I have one or two WHICH FEEL LIKE one hit wonder writers.
They can't or have yet to be able to leap from genre to genre.
They are not what I would call 'industrial strength' writers; they are instead energetic writers who got a bit of luck on one script because the hook is so good or the subject matter is so dear to them. That's not an insult by the way; it just 'is.'
I hope this helps, if not hit me back.

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2013, 01:25:22 AM »
Hmm... I really, really have to work on that first one. The rest of the list follows later. =)
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2013, 05:29:54 AM »
the best writers now are landing in tv/cable- so breaking in think indie/internet content, think creating your own tv pilot/character brand and MAKE IT STUFF FOLKS will WANT TO SEE: too many writers write for 'themselves' and I say that respectfully. Think about an internet 'tv' station show case, use tweets to market, use fb for same, consider outreach for hire (you all know I love Ashley and he's inexpensive) and think CHEAP SHOOT. Show biz is often an inflated pricetag - rethink YOUR version of innovation; aka Paranormal Act. cheap shoot, big franchise now. Lean and very edgy. in short be smart and pretend it's you writing the checks. IF you see GREEN, think RED. If you see Rom Com, go polar opposite. Take for example Hook; invert it to ??????????? See: Usual Suspects; invert it to ??????????????? - have a good time with your writing. bb

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2013, 06:09:50 AM »
reminder NOT TRUE:
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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2013, 09:13:31 AM »

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2013, 12:45:37 PM »
From Babz:

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2014, 03:01:03 PM »
and older article but it never hurts to know ... like ... stuff.
http://www.studiosystemnews.com/plot-twist-survival-of-the-hollywood-screenwriter/

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2014, 03:21:13 PM »

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2014, 07:31:52 PM »
from the read it and don't weep corner:

http://www.studiosystemnews.com/to-spec-or-not-to-spec-new-realities-may-mean-more-opportunities-for-writers/

Thanks Babz, makes you wonder why we all put ourselves through it !!!!!

I laugh every time Joe Eszterhas and "Basic Instincts" is mentioned. He was paid 3Million after a bidding frenzy and I recall reading an article by him were he was asked by the purchasers "How long did it take you to write it?". He responded "It was in development for some time" I think he said a year or two.
He said after receiving the 3 Million, "I didn't want to tell them it took me 14 days".

This gets me every time.

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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2014, 06:32:56 AM »
throwing up in five, four, three, two...

btw; if one of the films we have of the three funds this year I will have made once it's amortized, roughly what they make in Mexico to make sneakers.
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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2014, 04:44:53 PM »
I never stop wondering !! Probably why my brain is on constant overload.
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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2014, 07:57:03 AM »
Thanks Babz, makes you wonder why we all put ourselves through it !!!!!

I laugh every time Joe Eszterhas and "Basic Instincts" is mentioned. He was paid 3Million after a bidding frenzy and I recall reading an article by him were he was asked by the purchasers "How long did it take you to write it?". He responded "It was in development for some time" I think he said a year or two.
He said after receiving the 3 Million, "I didn't want to tell them it took me 14 days".

This gets me every time.

Alex

I read the entire 107 page script. There is not a single DISSOLVE, CUT TO, SERIES OF SHOTS, MONTAGE, INSERT, INTERCUT,  CAMERA DIRECTION or fancy technique in the entire script. Only scene headings, description and dialogue.
His focus is on telling the story through clear, lean, unencumbered writing.

Although in my opinion. He could have made the genre much stronger and the entire story much cleaner and clearer, If had omitted all profanity in the entire story.

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2014, 07:53:49 PM »
I read the entire 107 page script. There is not a single DISSOLVE, CUT TO, SERIES OF SHOTS, MONTAGE, INSERT, INTERCUT,  CAMERA DIRECTION or fancy technique in the entire script. Only scene headings, description and dialogue.
His focus is on telling the story through clear, lean, unencumbered writing.

Although in my opinion. He could have made the genre much stronger and the entire story much cleaner and clearer, If had omitted all profanity in the entire story.

Thanks rookies, you are right there...

I guess when your a pro with such a track record you can do what you like and people like him do things the way they are used to and don't care what the so called industry experts say.

His favorite song is probably "I did it my way" Hahahaha

Regards Alex

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« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2014, 12:17:50 AM »
I read the entire 107 page script. There is not a single DISSOLVE, CUT TO, SERIES OF SHOTS, MONTAGE, INSERT, INTERCUT,  CAMERA DIRECTION or fancy technique in the entire script. Only scene headings, description and dialogue.
His focus is on telling the story through clear, lean, unencumbered writing.

Although in my opinion. He could have made the genre much stronger and the entire story much cleaner and clearer, If had omitted all profanity in the entire story.

I have a paper copy of Basic Instinct. I bought it many years ago when computers were still not in everyones homes. It's still one of my favorite scripts and I've probably read thousands by now.  :)

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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2014, 08:09:56 AM »
no regrets needed here; I'm here at your pleasure. bb  8)

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2014, 11:47:35 AM »
no regrets needed here; I'm here at your pleasure. bb  8)

Kissy Kiss Kiss.
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« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2014, 06:46:03 AM »
Is Kissy Kiss Kiss? The title of an unproduced broad comedy or romantic comedy screenplay motion picture film?

Or is it a sweet Valentines Day Drama or comedy screenplay motion film designed especially for the month of February and the sweet chocolate holiday?
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« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2014, 11:47:56 AM »
Is Kissy Kiss Kiss? The title of an unproduced broad comedy or romantic comedy screenplay motion picture film?

Thanks Rookies. Not in the context that I meant it !!!! But it would make a great title for a RomCom.

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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2014, 04:48:47 AM »
Alex, Are you referring to another revised screenplay film such as Tron 3-D or another Tron 2?

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2014, 03:28:29 PM »
that article teaches more on one page than most quarterly classes

tell our peeps at forum
thanks

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2014, 11:28:28 AM »
Alex, Are you referring to another revised screenplay film such as Tron 3-D or another Tron 2?

Thanks rookies,

Babz offered her support and services and I threw her a kiss or three back.

Seriously thinking of this as a title now though. Hee Hee

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Re: From the desk of Babz
« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2014, 06:51:14 AM »
and I caught it!!!
holla!!!
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